Glenn Talks tea with Ted Nugent
GLENN: Let's go right to Ted Nugent, who's on the line with me now. Hey, Uncle Ted, how are you, sir?
NUGENT: Greetings, Glenn, you extremist you.
GLENN: I'm excited to see you at the Alamo.
NUGENT: Great place. What a shrine in Texas. It deserves us.
GLENN: It deserves us (laughing). Ted, did you read what Governor Perry said about the Tenth Amendment?
NUGENT: Absolutely. In fact, I've been communicated with the great governor in America, by the way, for a long time because I saw the other states doing it and I wrote a piece on humanevents.com and Wacotrib.com regarding that. The Tenth Amendment is as important as the second Amy.
GLENN: I have to tell you, you know, I've been a little iffy on Governor Perry because of the way he's handled the border in the past. I didn't think he was real tough on the border, but holy cow. What a statement coming from him on state sovereignty.
NUGENT: Well, listen, Glenn. Governor Perry is not your average bureaucrat. When we were finally getting concealed weapons rights here in the State of Texas, the great Republic of Texas, he stood up and said something that no politician has ever had the balls to say in the past. He said a concealed weapons permit is a concealed weapons permit wherever you may go. That is incredible and unprecedented.
GLENN: Wait a minute. What did he mean by that?
NUGENT: He meant that you should be able to carry guns in schools and he thought, it was his opinion that when you came to the capitol in Austin that when you were carrying on everyday citizen business, you could carry your gun wherever you went.
GLENN: God bless him, man.
NUGENT: That's where I love the guy.
GLENN: I have to tell you, I said absolutely no politicians on tax day but I'm going to make it if he still has time, I'm going to make an exception. I'd like to have him on the air with us tomorrow from the Alamo because
NUGENT: He's not a regular politician.
GLENN: He isn't. I mean, this statement in case you don't know what we're talking about, we'll recap it here in just a second, but the governor of Texas has come out and said we are tired of Washington telling Texans how to run Texas. Washington is out of control and we're not going to stand for it anymore.
GLENN: I mean, it's amazing. Okay, hang on, Ted, we'll be back with you in just a second. Talk a little bit about what's happening in our country, what the tax tea parties really mean, what the media is missing and what we'll experience tomorrow and what you'll feel tomorrow from Texas, not only on the radio tomorrow but also live from the Alamo. Our usual time, 5:00 p.m. Eastern time, live from the Alamo, surrounded by a bunch of Texans. America, you don't want to miss tomorrow's episode. More with Ted Nugent, next.
GLENN: We join once again Ted Nugent from his are you down at your ranch?
NUGENT: I'm down here in the beautiful Republic of Texas, Glenn.
GLENN: You know, Ted, I couldn't be at a tea party I don't think any place else other than the Alamo.
NUGENT: Well, as soon as I saw that it was going to be at the Alamo, that's when I called you. I said, that's a party zone for Uncle Ted.. Let's rock.
GLENN: I mean, it's just, it's the best. Are you going to bring your guitar?
NUGENT: Who's going to stop me? No, I'm going to play a firestorm of passionate Star Spangled Banner right there at the Alamo. It's called the Shrine of Texas because literally and figuratively the line was drawn in the sand and you know the Texas economy, the Texas spirit, it's so different, the Texas freedom. This is the last best place. I love America, but I love Texas more. This state is the last best place in the last best place and, you know, Marcus Luttrell will be with us tomorrow. I've got buddies and blood brothers of the military, every faction of the military and law enforcement. I mean, people from every walk of life, my hunting buddies, teachers and hardware store owners. Everybody's coming. It's going to be a great celebration.
GLENN: Hold on just a second. You are not suggesting there will be people with guns there?
NUGENT: I'm going to be there.
GLENN: What did you say?
NUGENT: I'm going to be there.
GLENN: Yeah. You wouldn't carry a gun.
NUGENT: No, I think unarmed and helpless is the way to go.
GLENN: It is the way to go, yes, yes, it is.
NUGENT: God bless the Navy SEALs, by the way. I love the way they handle pirates. My favorite pirate would be a dead one.
GLENN: Can I tell you something? They are talking about taking the 16 year old kid I said this this morning on Fox and Friends. They are talking about taking the 16 year old kid and bringing him over here and trying him in the United States. Shoot him in the head.
NUGENT: I've got to tell you, even 24 which used to be my very good show, I don't like soft. This is a we are in a war on terror. Those people over there don't give a damn about life. They are literally being emboldened and encouraged and rewarded by the sheep like countries who pay off the ransom. We need to send a message: Don't tread on me. And it doesn't include a spanking.
GLENN: Tell me, Ted, about is there a coincidence? I saw this in the newspapers and everybody was saying this on television like it was just some sort of tidbit, just like it just happened to be just over 200 years since we've had these problems with these pirates. You know why?
NUGENT: Read my piece today on humanevents.com. I've written a piece about how the Nugent family would handle pirates. And it's not just a weird guitar player's hunch. I believe that self evident truth, logic, goodwill and decency, good over evil, I believe it is alive and well.. I believe that the work ethic that made this country so superior to the rest of the planet is alive and well, and I think that's what these tea parties are celebrating and it goes right to how we handled this pirate situation off the coast of Somalia. That's how we should have handled the Beirut barracks. It's how we should have handled the USS Cole. It's how we should have handled the '93 assault in New York City. This is how we should deal with evil. This is the right modus operandi, and I salute all those involved.
GLENN: You know, I was listening to somebody who is just as left, apologist. I mean, I don't know if you've seen on the Huffington Post and some of these other things. They are actually, they are apologizing for the pirates and they're saying, you know, these pirates, they are just misunderstood. You've got to be kidding me. They don't understand that if we don't go and shoot these guys, stop these guys, the flag on the back of every ship, there's a reason why it hasn't been attacked for 200 years because Thomas Jefferson went and cut their heads off.
NUGENT: Hallelujah. Thomas Jefferson went to the Marines and said take them out and we sent them a message. Well, now what message are we sending if we don't do that?
NUGENT: Well, it goes to a much more pragmatic daily consideration, Glenn. You know, I got in a lot of hot water because I stand up for the truth. I don't play games. I believe that the next time a woman is about to be raped, she should kill him. I believe rapists should be dead, and the person about to be raped knows who the bad guy is. And I got in a lot of hot water, but I'd love to hear Plan B.
GLENN: Wait. I'm trying to think, where did you get into hot water on that? I'm trying to find, where is the problem with shooting the rapist?
NUGENT: But I did. You should see the attack. You can go to humanevents.com right now
GLENN: I mean, are you getting paid for humanevents.com? What is this? It's like the third plug here.
NUGENT: I'm proud to get my word out. I'm just a guitar player but I'm able to get the word out.
GLENN: Listen, everything that Ted has written on humanevents.com, we'll put in the newsletter today and so you'll have it right to your desktop.
NUGENT: Yes, put it in Glenn's newsletter. I'd be proud to write for you, Glenn. My point is
GLENN: Would you?
NUGENT: that I get attacked, I get personally attacked and my wife gets really upset. I go, no, no, honey, this is good. I'm a black Jew at a Nazi Klan rally. Of course they hate me..
GLENN: So what was the argument against women who are being raped shooting the rapist?
NUGENT: You become a vigilante.
GLENN: No, I just don't become a victim.
NUGENT: Amen. But see, what you and I consider to be inescapable, self evident truth, the left doesn't adhere to it. They literally reject. I've done so many shows. I was on Bill Maher's Politically Incorrect 16 times and I stood up for Second Amendment rights, and Elayne Boosler, a funny comedian, she was attacking me for being on the board of the NRA and attacking me because I carried a gun, and I mentioned that, you know, everybody who's getting raped today, everyone who's getting burglarized today, everyone who's getting carjacked today is unarmed and helpless. And we got into a conversation and I actually said so if you were about to be raped and you had a 38 nearby, you wouldn't shoot them? And she literally admitted that she didn't think she could do it. I told her I'd shoot them for her, but
NUGENT: But that's the mindset. I guess they just don't value
GLENN: This doesn't make any sense. Look, if somebody's in my house and they are stealing my television, you know what, you come up those stairs, you start coming towards my family, I shoot you dead.
GLENN: I don't think I'm going to shoot you for my television set, although I would consider it. I may get up on the wrong side of the bed. You're in my house.
NUGENT: No, but really examine the statistics, Glenn. And if he has broken that rule and he has broken into your house, you do not know if the television set is all he can take.
GLENN: That's why I say I'm not I mean, look, if I could see it and you're like, "No, I'm just taking the television, then I'll leave you alone" and I could see into the future and that's really what he was going to do? Okay. But I don't know.. I don't know what you're going to do. You've broken into my house, but I have to tell you if somebody is harming me, my family, my children, my neighbor, anybody, I shoot them. I shoot them.
NUGENT: Well, you know, we believe that good should win over evil and if you are unarmed and helpless, evil will win. And I find that unacceptable.
GLENN: So Ted, what do you how much time do we have here, Stu? We have less than a minute? Can you hang on just one more break, Ted?
NUGENT: My pleasure.
GLENN: Can you hang on?
GLENN: Because I just want to ask you what you're sensing in Texas, because you travel all over the country. And I've sensed something different in Texas for a while now. What you're sensing in Texas that is different from the rest of the country, how far ahead is Texas and especially in regards to the tea party and, you know, the madness of an out of control government. The number is 888 727 BECK. Don't forget tomorrow we will be in San Antonio at the Alamo. Ted Nugent will be joining me and so much more. Don't miss it. Tomorrow, San Antonio, meet me at the Alamo.
GLENN: 888 727 BECK. Ted Nugent is with us. He's going to be joining me tomorrow at the Alamo, the live broadcast begins at 4:00 p.m. Central time, 5:00 usual time on television. And then afterwards is the Texas tea party that is happening and there's just no place better in the country than in the Alamo and we'll explain a little bit of the history and everything of the Alamo tomorrow. I mean, once you know the story of the Alamo, you're like, oh, my gosh. It is perfect. So let yourself be seen and heard tomorrow from the Alamo.
Ted, I have been saying for the last couple of years that the people in Texas understand the meaning of the word "Republic" where most Americans don't even understand republic anymore.
NUGENT: It's very different here, Glenn. You really have a sense of freedom. I was born and raised in Detroit and if you really wanted to be honest about liberal policies and the results of liberal policies, I give you the once great productive state of Michigan. Conversely if you come to Texas, it's a wide open, inviting environment for an entrepreneur to start a business. There's no income tax, no personal income tax here. I mean, I hate to constantly refer to everything regarding gun rights but here in Texas our gun rights, we can have a loaded rifle, and those of us with Class 3 licenses, we can have a loaded machine gun in our truck next to us. And maybe you can tell me the last time you heard of a carjacking in Texas. You can't people's heads would explode in Illinois, in Massachusetts, in California just considering that citizens are trusted with firearms in their truck? Yeah. This is Texas. We're free. We have good private property rights.
There's a rugged individualism. There's a neighborliness. There's a powerful, palpable goodwill and friendliness and decency in the great Republic of Texas. Now, it's ubiquitous across the land, I would trust my friends in Massachusetts with a rifle in their truck. No one's going to stop by and be urged to, you know, rob a bank just because the gun happened to be handy. That is so bizarre of a thought pattern.
GLENN: No. No, here's where you go here's where you go wrong, Ted. You wouldn't have, like you made the example of California, you know, you wouldn't be able to have a gun in your truck because in California you are soon not going to be able to have a truck.
NUGENT: Yeah. That's just my point. You know, and here there are two words that describe why I live in Texas: Joe Horn. If my neighbor's house was on fire, I wouldn't just call 911. I'd start hosing down the flames. I'd go and I'd try to help my neighbor. Well, when Joe Horn in Houston saw his neighbor's house assaulted and burglarized by two invaders from Colombia, convicted felon. Now, he didn't know they were convicted felons, but he saw his neighbor's freedom being assaulted. Joe Horn called 911, but he confronted the thieves and killed them. I like dead thieves. I like dead felons. In Texas we think if you rob our neighbor's home, we have just as much right to stop you as if you're robbing our home because we have a neighborliness. Yet across the nation, especially on Fox News all the talking heads on Fox News condemned Joe Horn and, of course, Plan B would be to let the invaders from Colombia rob anyone they want because 911 gets nothing done.
GLENN: I believe that I was over at CNN at the time not condemning Mr. Horn.
NUGENT: Good. I saw Mr. Napolitano, whatever the legal talking heads at Fox were literally going, "He would be in prison for life for first degree murder any place else." That's exactly
GLENN: Well, no, but that's true. First of all
NUGENT: It is true.
GLENN: Yeah, Judge Napolitano is a libertarian.
NUGENT: He should have spoke out and he should have supported Joe Horn. He didn't. I watched it.
GLENN: So tell me, Ted, on what am I wrong thinking that Texas is ahead of the rest of the country in their being fed up with an out of control government? And it didn't just start with Barack Obama. This has been going on for a very long time.
NUGENT: Oh, even our neighbor over in Crawford when Bush was turning into a fed zilla tax blowtorch spending like a drunken sailor in a whorehouse, the voices rose up in Texas against our own neighbor in Texas because he was violating the self evident truths that the rest of us have to live by, i.e., living within your means.
NUGENT: So that's there's a love and affection for all good men in Texas, but we will not tolerate much.
NUGENT: Again I have to repeat, I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as soon as I could. And you have to spend some time, and I'm sincere when I invite you down, Glenn. You will never feel more American, you will never feel more welcome, you will never feel safer than when you come to Texas. And if you want to start a doughnut shop or a dry cleaners or a ranch supply outfit, you can do it in Texas. The red tape is effective but minimal, not to be confused with Michigan.
GLENN: Ted, I lived in Corpus Christi for two years and I lived in Houston for two years.
NUGENT: Am I right?
GLENN: Oh, yeah. No, it's a different attitude in Texas. It's a different it is a different place, and it is again a place that understands a republic. We're not a democracy. No matter what anybody says, we're not mob rule.
NUGENT: That's right.
GLENN: We are a republic, and that is the way our founders designed us so we wouldn't have mob rule and so man could truly be free. Republic is one of the only ways that freedom can exist. And we've turned ourselves into a democracy that, you know, says, oh, well, the people have spoken and the people have you know, believe in this guy so he can trample the Constitution. That's both George Bush and Barack Obama. You can't trample the Constitution.
NUGENT: You know across the State of Texas in my meanderings, I see the American flag flown proudly everywhere, Glenn. And right under it is the Texas flag with equal pride. And oftentimes, more often than not right under that is a yellow flag with a coiled snake that says "Don't tread on me." That spirit of independence is declared ubiquitously across the great Republic of Texas, from the east to the west, to the north, to the south. And you will be so at home at the Alamo tomorrow. And when I play the Star Spangled Banner, there is no words to describe the patriotism and the love of this country that exists in this state
GLENN: Can I tell you something?
NUGENT: Colonel Travis drew that line in the sand and it's still in the hearts of Texans.
GLENN: Ted, there's going to be a lot of people that will just happen to have their TVs on tomorrow at 5:00 p.m. eastern and we're going to start the program with the Star Spangled Banner.
GLENN: I believe that there will be a lot of people in New York that just happen to have the show on and their heads will pop when they hear it.
NUGENT: Blood's going to squirt out of their eyeballs.
GLENN: Tomorrow from the Alamo, Ted Nugent, we'll see you there.
NUGENT: God bless you, Glenn.
GLENN: You bet. Bye.